Are we Wrong to Lockdown?

[Enoch]

Looking up on many of the statistics over the Covid-19, i am starting to see a different perspective in how we are managing the pandemic in this country. so let me put this to you.

The average age of death from Covid-19 is 82. So as you are aware, the vast majority of the numbers have to come between 72-92 for an average such as that. So we are looking at the oldest generation as being the risk to life category during this, numbers being over 40 thousand dead from the virus in this age range for the majority.

Compare that to 550000 a year that die from age related issues, specifically Dementia and Alziemers.

In terms of the numbers dying generally, 44 and under have seen next to no difference in deaths from before covid to during it. The amount a week has stayed pretty consistent which suggests that anyone in the age groups below 45 are not being affected unless special circumstances.

Side point, from the middle of June onward, general respiratory deaths have increased and surpassed Covid to the tune of 893 to 99 as of the week ending 11th September. That includes pneumonia , infections and anything in between.

Since the middle of August, we have seen a decrease of deaths per week by as much as 15%, or 1000 less a week. With no explanation as to why such a big drop based on the last 5 years.

So with all that being said. Given the price of locking down the country and applying so many measures is jobs, businesses , mental health, homes, losing loved ones without seeing them etc.

Are we right in locking the country down? Because, it seems the lockdown is to protect the one age group most likely to die? As statistics are showing that there is significantly less deaths for quite a lot of age groups, the most affected by locking down the country. Should we not be implementing protection for those vulnerable rather than locking down and restricting so much which is having a major impact on so many different factors.

The key point of topic here being the sickness vs death debate. If no-one was dying due to Covid-19, would we still be locking the country down?

 

[Enoch]

And further to the debate.

If you contribute the 1000 less a week to numbers now found in covid numbers. how many more would be found in the demetia / alziemers figures that otherwise are in the covid list now?

 

[TheLiqidator]

We're not in lockdown, far from it. The extra restrictions we have are nothing and need to get increased.

 

[Car147]

So what do you prefer. let it run and kill your Parents/Grand Parents??? Lockdown will come , and sadly more deaths due to in action.

You are not seeing the the deaths yet as it's in the younger generation at present, but will slowly bridge the gap as infections are doubling now every week according to the BBC .In 3-4wk is when it will become blindingly obvious no lessons were learn't from the first outbreak


Jeez, next you will be telling us it's bloody 5g masts..and the Earth's flat

 

[Jon The Vape]

What about the poor bastards who actually survive covid and then live with the rehab and long term side effects that they are saying could last a very long time.
Only solution is use the army as a food delivery service, and lock the country down for at least two week incubation period and every household gets tested
Shut international travel as that has been a massive loophole allowing covid into the UK.

 

[Jon The Vape]

So what do you prefer. let it run and kill your Parents/Grand Parents??? Lockdown will come , and sadly more deaths due to in action.

You are not seeing the the deaths yet as it's in the younger generation at present, but will slowly bridge the gap as infections are doubling now every week according to the BBC .In 3-4wk is when it will become blindingly obvious no lessons were learn't from the first outbreak


Jeez, next you will be telling us it's bloody 5g masts..and the Earth's flat

Exactly

 

[Enoch]

So what do you prefer. let it run and kill your Parents/Grand Parents??? Lockdown will come , and sadly more deaths due to in action.

You are not seeing the the deaths yet as it's in the younger generation at present, but will slowly bridge the gap as infections are doubling now every week according to the BBC .In 3-4wk is when it will become blindingly obvious no lessons were learn't from the first outbreak

But would it not be a better idea to manage a protect over prevent system?

Protect those who are at risk from dying rather than blanket everyone?

It would have a much better effect on the economy, would get more people back in work and it would then be focused on saving the lives it needs to saves rather than still going by the assumption that anyone is at risk, then the literal numbers do not reflect that.

If you are in the age bracket at the potential death risk and you want to go out then you accept the risks by doing so. that way you aren't literally locking them up, allowing them to take precautions.

 

[Enoch]

What about the poor bastards who actually survive covid and then live with the rehab and long term side effects that they are saying could last a very long time.
Only solution is use the army as a food delivery service, and lock the country down for at least two week incubation period and every household gets tested
Shut international travel as that has been a massive loophole allowing covid into the UK.

We have done that once already and it didn't work.

The virus isn't going anywhere fast, yet the cost of restricting measures will cost people their businesses, jobs, homes even.

At some point you have to accept that rather than try and get rid of a virus that will never go away.

A 2 week national lockdown would achieve nothing at all, any lockdown would do nothing at all, other than a drop and then rise in numbers over and over.

 

[Car147]

Aye, and treat the elderly like lepers? you obviously have not read any of the latest medical info.

1 It's not only the elderly that are susceptable, perfectly healthy folk are being left with lifetime health issues due to this virus. ( Long Covid) Heart, Brain and abdominal cases)

2 We don't know the long term affects on various organs.

3 There is no proof of any immunity other than 2- 3mths so far, and at least a couple of folk have now been unlucky enough to catch it twice.

 

[Jon The Vape]

We have done that once already and it didn't work.

The virus isn't going anywhere fast, yet the cost of restricting measures will cost people their businesses, jobs, homes even.

At some point you have to accept that rather than try and get rid of a virus that will never go away.

A 2 week national lockdown would achieve nothing at all, any lockdown would do nothing at all, other than a drop and then rise in numbers over and over.

Look at New Zealand, an island same as us, they closed borders before covid got a hold. We didn't even test people coming into the country.
I agree with you on your idea but people are just stupid and think it won't kill me or I won't get it.
Last week I had to travel on a bus to work, first time out in 5 months.
Two pensioners sat on seats, one turning round chatting to other one, the one turned round had a mask on his chin FFS.