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May we have a PG-free subforum?

Discussion in 'New User Questions and Discussion' started by jay2, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. jay2

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    Well, as "as I can gather" like I said. I'm always willing to change my mind about stuff like that. I'm just repeating what I've read on several forums, and noting that the statement rarely gets challeged, in my experience. So it's probably correct., (at this juncture in time, that is. Increased usage of substances by industry and other such changes can always lead to increasing problems).

    I'm not sure that " vaping anything over 60% VG leaves me with a very heavy chest and flemmy" counts as an allergy/intolerance/ sensitivity,to the VG though. It sounds more like a physical response to some kind of physical property of the VG than some kind of chemical sensitivity. I mean, something similar to the people sometimes get after they quit smoking...about 3 weeks later their lungs starts coughing up the tar. Not because they're sensitive to vape juice, nor to fresh air , but just because you're not pushing further tar into your lungs any more, I don't know how the thing you describe might work, but if it was some kind of VG sensitivity as such, I should think you'd have problems at 60% as well a 70%.

    I don't like to quibble. it's tough luck, whatever it is! But i think we do have to be careful with our terminology, if we want to clarify these issues rather than confound them! (and it looks like they badly need clarifying, doesn't it?)

    I've no kind of expert knowledge BTW, but I have done an awful lot of reading about this kind of thing, seeing as I've been plagued with this kind of issue, for my sins. Heck, i used to think that allergy sufferers are "precious" , and they therefore got precious little sympathy from me. Serves me right, hmm?
     
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  2. simong

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    maybe... it's no biggy I was just going on what people who say they have PG intolerance who often say "I can vape 80% or 70% VG but I can't vape 50/50"

    ...and I'm just kind of the opposite of that, the more VG is in the juice the worse I feel after vaping it. 50/50 is my preference I don't really notice anything at 60% but 70% and above I feel it, it actually makes me feel quite ill.

    I've not thought about it much until now.
     
  3. speedfreek67

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    Manabush is 50PG. So it's probably not the PG at all.

    Perhaps it is the type of sweetner that Element uses. You don't have a PG intolerance, you have an Element intolerance (seeing as the 20PG Element Dripper range also does it).
     
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  4. ZT

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    Yep, does me no good whatsoever high VG - I know a few people like it.
     
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  5. Coolie27

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    Thank-you, very informative and frightening. I guess you aren't advising me to stop vaping :) just stop the one that makes me itch. I haven't had any anaphylactic episodes since the only one.
     
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    In truth it could be a .... let's say sensitivity rather than allergy - to any number of chemicals (even normally fairly neutral ones) that could be in the mix
     
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  7. Coolie27

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    Hi spreadfreak. I was thinking the same thing. Manabush is 60/40 I think. They write it on the label the other way round for some reason. VG/PG. it's a mystery what is in elements. Don't want to get libel from the mighty elements. Strangely enough I tried their far range and one gave a reaction and the other didn't. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
     
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    Manabush Nokomis range is 50/50
    Manabush Spiritwalker range is 60/40
     
  9. Mr Numpty

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    I thought it had been debunked that asthma inhalers contained PG?
     
  10. Coolie27

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    Sorry for the confusion. I'm on the spiritwalker range. Should have said earlier.
     

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