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Such a simple name for something that is extremely complex.

Take the food itself it's described as a variety of culinary preparations based on milk or cream cooked with egg yolk to thicken it, and sometimes also flour, corn starch, or gelatin. Depending on the recipe, custard may vary in consistency from a thin pouring sauce (crème anglaise) to the thick pastry cream (crème pâtissière) used to fill éclairs. The most common custards are used in desserts or dessert sauces and typically include sugar and vanilla, however savory custards are also found, e.g., in quiche.
Custard is usually cooked in a double boiler (bain-marie), or heated very gently in a saucepan on a stove, though custard can also be steamed, baked in the oven with or without a water bath, or even cooked in a pressure cooker. Custard preparation is a delicate operation, because a temperature increase of 3–6 °C (5–10 °F) leads to overcooking and curdling. Generally, a fully cooked custard should not exceed 80 °C (~175 °F); it begins setting at 70 °C (~160 °F).[1] A water bath slows heat transfer and makes it easier to remove the custard from the oven before it curdles.[2] Adding a small amount of cornflour to the egg-sugar mixture stabilises the resulting custard, allowing it to be cooked in a single pan as well as in a double-boiler. A sous-vide water bath may be used to precisely control temperature.

History........
Mixtures of milk and eggs thickened by heat have long been part of European cuisine, since at least Ancient Rome. Custards baked in pastry (custard tarts) were very popular in the Middle Ages, and are the origin of the English word 'custard': the French term 'croustade' originally referred to the crust of a tart,[3] and is derived from the Italian word crostata, and ultimately the Latin crustāre.[4]

Examples include Crustardes of flessh and Crustade, in the 14th century English collection The Forme of Cury. These recipes include solid ingredients such as meat, fish, and fruit bound by the custard.[5][6] Stirred custards cooked in pots are also found under the names Creme Boylede and Creme boiled.[6]

In modern times, the name 'custard' is sometimes applied to starch-thickened preparations like blancmange and Bird's Custard powder.

Variations........
While custard may refer to a wide variety of thickened dishes, technically (and in French cookery) the word "custard" (crème or more precisely crème moulée, [kʁɛm mule]) refers only to an egg-thickened custard.

When starch is added, the result is called pastry cream (French: crème pâtissière, pronounced [kʁɛm pɑtisjɛːʁ]) or confectioners' custard, made with a combination of milk or cream, egg yolks, fine sugar, flour or some other starch, and usually a flavoring such as vanilla, chocolate, or lemon. Crème pâtissière is a key ingredient in many French desserts including mille-feuille (or Napoleons) and filled tarts. It is also used in Italian pastry and sometimes in Boston cream pie. The thickening of the custard is caused by the combination of egg and starch. Corn flour or flour thicken at 100 °C (212˚F) and as such many recipes instruct the pastry cream to be boiled. In a traditional custard such as a crème anglaise, where egg is used alone as a thickener, boiling results in the over cooking and subsequent 'curdling' of the custard; however, in a pastry cream, starch prevents this. Once cooled, the amount of starch in pastry cream 'sets' the cream and requires it to be beaten or whipped before use.
When gelatin is added, it is known as crème anglaise collée ([kʁɛm ɑ̃ɡlɛz kɔle]). When gelatin is added and whipped cream is folded in, and it sets in a mold, it is bavarois. When starch is used alone as a thickener (without eggs), the result is a blancmange. In the United Kingdom, custard has various traditional recipes some thickened principally with cornflour (cornstarch) rather than the egg component, others involving regular flour; see custard powder.

After the custard has thickened, it may be mixed with other ingredients: mixed with stiffly beaten egg whites and gelatin, it is chiboust cream; mixed with whipped cream, it is crème légère, [kʁɛm leʒɛːʁ]. Beating in softened butter produces German buttercream or crème mousseline.

A quiche is a savoury custard tart. Some kinds of timbale or vegetable loaf are made of a custard base mixed with chopped savoury ingredients. Custard royale is a thick custard cut into decorative shapes and used to garnish soup, stew or broth. In German it is known as Eierstich and is used as a garnish in German Wedding Soup (Hochzeitssuppe).[7] Chawanmushi is a Japanese savoury custard, steamed and served in a small bowl or on a saucer. Chinese steamed egg is a similar but larger savoury egg dish. Bougatsa is a Greek breakfast pastry whose sweet version consists of semolina phyllo.

Custard may also be used as a top layer in gratins, such as the South African bobotie and many Balkan versions of moussaka.

In Peru, leche asada 'baked milk' is custard baked in individual molds.[8] It is considered a restaurant dish.[9]



Given the complexity and variations of the food itself it's not surprising that custard vapes vary hugely from cream heavy, vanilla packed, thick with pastry, even bordering eggy, and sometimes starchy.

Childhood memories of what is a custard is different from people to people, region region, and country to country, multiplying to endless variations to what should be a relatively simple and straightforward flavour to recreate.

It's because of the endless possibilities of custard in a vape and so many individual perspectives of the profile there will always be room for another custard recipe ;)
 
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Such a simple name for something that is extremely complex.

Take the food itself it's described as a variety of culinary preparations based on milk or cream cooked with egg yolk to thicken it, and sometimes also flour, corn starch, or gelatin. Depending on the recipe, custard may vary in consistency from a thin pouring sauce (crème anglaise) to the thick pastry cream (crème pâtissière) used to fill éclairs. The most common custards are used in desserts or dessert sauces and typically include sugar and vanilla, however savory custards are also found, e.g., in quiche.
Custard is usually cooked in a double boiler (bain-marie), or heated very gently in a saucepan on a stove, though custard can also be steamed, baked in the oven with or without a water bath, or even cooked in a pressure cooker. Custard preparation is a delicate operation, because a temperature increase of 3–6 °C (5–10 °F) leads to overcooking and curdling. Generally, a fully cooked custard should not exceed 80 °C (~175 °F); it begins setting at 70 °C (~160 °F).[1] A water bath slows heat transfer and makes it easier to remove the custard from the oven before it curdles.[2] Adding a small amount of cornflour to the egg-sugar mixture stabilises the resulting custard, allowing it to be cooked in a single pan as well as in a double-boiler. A sous-vide water bath may be used to precisely control temperature.

History........
Mixtures of milk and eggs thickened by heat have long been part of European cuisine, since at least Ancient Rome. Custards baked in pastry (custard tarts) were very popular in the Middle Ages, and are the origin of the English word 'custard': the French term 'croustade' originally referred to the crust of a tart,[3] and is derived from the Italian word crostata, and ultimately the Latin crustāre.[4]

Examples include Crustardes of flessh and Crustade, in the 14th century English collection The Forme of Cury. These recipes include solid ingredients such as meat, fish, and fruit bound by the custard.[5][6] Stirred custards cooked in pots are also found under the names Creme Boylede and Creme boiled.[6]

In modern times, the name 'custard' is sometimes applied to starch-thickened preparations like blancmange and Bird's Custard powder.

Variations........
While custard may refer to a wide variety of thickened dishes, technically (and in French cookery) the word "custard" (crème or more precisely crème moulée, [kʁɛm mule]) refers only to an egg-thickened custard.

When starch is added, the result is called pastry cream (French: crème pâtissière, pronounced [kʁɛm pɑtisjɛːʁ]) or confectioners' custard, made with a combination of milk or cream, egg yolks, fine sugar, flour or some other starch, and usually a flavoring such as vanilla, chocolate, or lemon. Crème pâtissière is a key ingredient in many French desserts including mille-feuille (or Napoleons) and filled tarts. It is also used in Italian pastry and sometimes in Boston cream pie. The thickening of the custard is caused by the combination of egg and starch. Corn flour or flour thicken at 100 °C (212˚F) and as such many recipes instruct the pastry cream to be boiled. In a traditional custard such as a crème anglaise, where egg is used alone as a thickener, boiling results in the over cooking and subsequent 'curdling' of the custard; however, in a pastry cream, starch prevents this. Once cooled, the amount of starch in pastry cream 'sets' the cream and requires it to be beaten or whipped before use.
When gelatin is added, it is known as crème anglaise collée ([kʁɛm ɑ̃ɡlɛz kɔle]). When gelatin is added and whipped cream is folded in, and it sets in a mold, it is bavarois. When starch is used alone as a thickener (without eggs), the result is a blancmange. In the United Kingdom, custard has various traditional recipes some thickened principally with cornflour (cornstarch) rather than the egg component, others involving regular flour; see custard powder.

After the custard has thickened, it may be mixed with other ingredients: mixed with stiffly beaten egg whites and gelatin, it is chiboust cream; mixed with whipped cream, it is crème légère, [kʁɛm leʒɛːʁ]. Beating in softened butter produces German buttercream or crème mousseline.

A quiche is a savoury custard tart. Some kinds of timbale or vegetable loaf are made of a custard base mixed with chopped savoury ingredients. Custard royale is a thick custard cut into decorative shapes and used to garnish soup, stew or broth. In German it is known as Eierstich and is used as a garnish in German Wedding Soup (Hochzeitssuppe).[7] Chawanmushi is a Japanese savoury custard, steamed and served in a small bowl or on a saucer. Chinese steamed egg is a similar but larger savoury egg dish. Bougatsa is a Greek breakfast pastry whose sweet version consists of semolina phyllo.

Custard may also be used as a top layer in gratins, such as the South African bobotie and many Balkan versions of moussaka.

In Peru, leche asada 'baked milk' is custard baked in individual molds.[8] It is considered a restaurant dish.[9]



Given the complexity and variations of the food itself it's not surprising that custard vapes vary hugely from cream heavy, vanilla packed, thick with pastry, even bordering eggy, and sometimes starchy.

Childhood memories of what is a custard is different from people to people, region region, and country to country, multiplying to endless variations to what should be a relatively simple and straightforward flavour to recreate.

It's because of the endless possibilities of custard in a vape and so many individual perspectives of the profile there will always be room for another custard recipe ;)
Great post.
I used to like custards in my vape but have gone off them a bit now.
 
Great post.
I used to like custards in my vape but have gone off them a bit now.
I think you’re missing the point a bit - he’s just laying the ground work for a v6! All before my first batch of v5 has even finished steeping! It’s not really fair to be honest... :17:
 
I think you’re missing the point a bit - he’s just laying the ground work for a v6! All before my first batch of v5 has even finished steeping! It’s not really fair to be honest... :17:
Nah mate, I know Ripple well enough and his recipe posts. Just banter mate. No point missed at all.
 
Nah mate, I know Ripple well enough and his recipe posts. Just banter mate. No point missed at all.
Fair enough! My money’s still on a v6 or similar coming down they way fairly soon! At least I hope so, I only really vape deserts and @StrawberryRipple seems to know those onions to a tee.
 
Fair enough! My money’s still on a v6 or similar coming down they way fairly soon! At least I hope so, I only really vape deserts and @StrawberryRipple seems to know those onions to a tee.
Yeah he has some really good ones and is more kind enough to share them. :thumbup:
 
Fair enough! My money’s still on a v6 or similar coming down they way fairly soon! At least I hope so, I only really vape deserts and @StrawberryRipple seems to know those onions to a tee.

Yeah he has some really good ones and is more kind enough to share them. :thumbup:

In progress :2thumbsup:

Three different takes on Vanilla Ice Cream.

One Custard with the ingredients doing the hard work which is almost ready just in the process of being balanced.

Four variations of an Ambrosia style custard.
 
@StrawberryRipple

As you are something of an expert perhaps you (or anyone else) can advise me? I'm trying to stretch out my concentrate supplies and am looking to make a low percentage custard, I have 30ml of cap v1 and 30ml of tfa vanilla custard, I find the tfa peppery (like the vanilla bean ice cream, although it does steep out a bit). I have other creams and vanilla's I can add in, but the key thing is a low percentage mix. Cheers!
 
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