Always good to have some more real life experiences buddy. Will help to build a long term picture. I sent a selection of juices to catalent last week for sugar profile testing. I haven't had the final results back yet but I've had the verbal confirmation of" Hell yes" we've found sugar in these. Hoping to get them to do a little testing against current data on transmucosul sugar transfer (a fancy name for can sugar pass via the lungs to the bloodstream and how effectively). By no means is this to point a finger, just an out of intrest test. Also at this meagre level it will hold no water but may be interesting. Thanks crusty.