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https://www.sigmagazine.it/2017/12/la-quinta-commissione-approva-rotta-boccadutri/

Monday, December 18, 2018 is the nefarious day that will go down in history for the vaping sector as the most complicated, but also as the one that marked the fate of the sector. The Fifth Commission of the Chamber of Deputies approved the amendment of the reform of the vaping sector, inserting it in fact into the tax decree and thus replacing the now former Amendment by Vicari. Patriarchs of the reform of the Democratic Party and the alfaniani. 21 to 12 the result in the vote in committee. Despite the hypothesis of negotiation, the government has not surrendered. He wanted to devastate a sector.
But there is a surprise: compared to the original formulation proposed by Rotta and Boccadutri (Pd), the government has canceled the hypothesis of remodeling the tax and the deferment of the previous debt for the companies and has reinserted the ban on selling for online .
The tax on bottles with and without nicotine remains dramatically stopped at € 0.37344 plus VAT per milliliter with or without nicotine. In short, about 5 euros for every 10 milliliters on all liquids, just under 500 euros on a liter. Companies will not have the opportunity to take the previous debt as a discount. We are talking about hundreds of millions of euros. A heavy blow that will affect the entire supply chain from the roots.
The shopkeepers must not undergo a license but must request a simple authorization to Aams who, during the implementation decree to be issued by March 31, 2018, can not set limits neither to the procurement nor to the new openings. But with the announced state of crisis of production companies, the future of the stores could also suffer serious repercussions.
The web will be deleted. The total ban on online sales of liquids with and without nicotine remains. The Chamber will approve the budget law on Thursday 21 December. At that point the electronic cigarette world will have to take note of what has been decided.
This is the text of the amendment:

In Article 1, after paragraph 39, the following paragraphs are inserted:
39-bis. To the legislative decree 26 October 1995, n. 504, article 62-quater, as amended by Decree-Law 16 October 2017, n. 148, converted, with amendments, by law December 4, 2017 n. 172, the following modifications have been made:
a) in paragraph 5, the words from: "The sale" to: "exclusively" are replaced by the following: "The sale of the products referred to in paragraphs 1 and 1-bis, containing or not nicotine, excluding mechanical and electronic devices, including spare parts, is carried out exclusively ";
b) paragraph 5-bis is entirely replaced by the following "5-bis. With directorial decree of the Customs and Monopoly Agency, Monopoly area, to be adopted by March 31, 2018, are established for neighborhood businesses, for pharmacies and parapharmacies, the procedures and requirements for authorization to sell and for the supply of inhalation-free products without combustion consisting of liquid substances, containing or not
nicotine, as per paragraphs 1 and 1-bis, with the exclusion of mechanical and electronic devices and
spare parts, according to the following criteria: i) prevalence , for neighborhood businesses, with
the exception of pharmacies and parapharmacies, of the sale of products of which
paragraphs 1 and 1-bis and mechanical and electronic devices, including spare parts;
ii) effective ability to guarantee compliance with the ban on sale to minors; iii) non-discrimination between supply channels. Pending the adoption of the decree, the activities referred to in this paragraph are allowed to continue the activity. ";
c) after paragraph 7 the following is inserted "8. The provisions of articles 291 bis, ter and quater of the Decree of the President of the Republic January 23, 1973, n. 43, are applied also with reference to the products referred to in paragraphs 1 and 1-bis, with the exception of mechanical and electronic devices and spare parts, according to the equivalence mechanism referred to in paragraph 1-bis. The provisions of Article 96 of the Law of 17 July 1942, n. 907, as well as those referred to in Article 5 of the Law of 18 January 1994, n. 50.
39-f. To the legislative decree 12 January 2016, n. 6, article 21, paragraph 11 is replaced by the following: "11. The remote sale of inhalation products without combustion consisting of liquid substances, containing or not nicotine, is forbidden to consumers who purchase in the territory of the State. ".

Greedy cunts
 
So basically the Italian gov are taking the stifling of the vape industry in their own country to the next level by adding tax to all e liquid including 0mg...wonder how that effects diy then
 
FFS
and we think weve got a crap government no mater who is in.

so im guessing for anyone going to italy in the future could have trouble at customs.
 
FFS
and we think weve got a crap government no mater who is in.

so im guessing for anyone going to italy in the future could have trouble at customs.
No, you won't have any trouble: just put your eliquids into the 100 ml little bottles for shampoo and stuff. :D
anyway vaping is not banned so no problem at all but our politicians have decided to squeeze as much money they can out of the vapers.
at the moment the situation is alarming but, as usual, not very clear.
anyway it seems that we will be able to buy pg,vg and flavours online(also outside italy) without any restriction because they fall under the new law only if they are put together (so a pg/vg base even without nic is troublesome, a zero nic eliquid too, but 1 bathtub of pg, one of vg and 1000 l of flavours are ok).
I really hope vicari and her closest and dearest will get lung cancer.
 
Jesus !!!!
I would not want to live in Italy.
Just had a look at an Italian vendors website.
A 10ml bottle of 0mg juice is 9.9 euros, if you then add 5 euros vat you end up paying 16 euros for 10ml of juice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Jesus !!!!
I would not want to live in Italy.
Just had a look at an Italian vendors website.
A 10ml bottle of 0mg juice is 9.9 euros, if you then add 5 euros vat you end up paying 16 euros for 10ml of juice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tell me about it! might consider switching to crack: easier to buy and less expensive :(
 
Governments around Europe, including our own will be watching this with great interest.
If there is little negative reaction among the Italian public, and no great reaction from Italian vapers, other Governments may follow suit.
 
tell me about it! might consider switching to crack: easier to buy and less expensive :(

Where do the implications mean though.
How will this affect Flavorart, a lot of their stuff is Italian, I think.
 
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