I listened to the audio (thank you Ejuicebox) and could I firstly say well done Katherine... your approach was informative, controlled and delivered in a reasonable tone (much more reasonable than I could have managed... listening to the chairwoman's attitude, I'd have been tempted to give her a bloody good slap). I was a little disappointed to hear a few of the industry speakers emphasise points that suited their own particular business model rather than the 'greater good'. I was also very disappointed when the subject of flavourings and the usual bs gateway theory was raised by the 'panel'. This is an argument that 'they' are seemingly going to cling to like a tramp to a can of special brew. Great response on the flavourings Kath, and could I just enquire... if the directives are pushed through with needlessly over stringent emphasis on flavourings, will companies like Decadent Vapours still be able to sell their excellent 'aromas' so that I can use them in my ..erm... 'homeopathic oils'? All in all, I was disappointed with the attitude of the chairwoman and it would appear that 'they' want to be seen to be hearing from the industry, but without actually listening. The point that 4mg per ml is far too low is perhaps the point they might just pick up on, but imho, that has been deliberately placed as an unrealistic target from with they can back pedal and be seen to concede ground, whilst still maintaining the other excessive controls they wish to impose. Thank you Katherine for all your hard work and efforts... even if they were to turn out to be ultimately in vain (which I sincerely hope they won't be), you have presented the case in a sensible, articulate, common sense based fashion. You have my admiration and gratitude.