As people spoke before and I agree with them here, it's not a competition who is gonna build lowest and survive. SAFETY COMES FIRST! Newbies and pro vapers are advising to use ur batteries and builds with ur head that's why on public forum u will find safe builds and battery usage. FB groups hmm... I'm in some vape groups and to be honest I don't even read or look at the stuff which is in there as loads of it is made up, will need to delete them groups as what most people and new members are interested in is how to vape and be safe Nobody stopping you from building low but be aware that at some point it might end bad, dunno if u are using mech or regulated mod for ur builds if it's a mech make sure always make sure it's clean and it won't auto fire in ur pocket! Please refrain from encouraging others to do so as it's NOT SAFE.