Yeah it seems a constant complaint. To be fair mrs kid never kicks up but she definitely can tell a mile away if I've vaped one. The indigene range has caused comment from a few around me too but there's some juices that they will just have to deal with. Lol. I think the issue with tamahaak is it smells so right she starts craving a real smoke. The bestcig and some heavy net juices definitely get heavy if over steeped though your right. The turkish one from bestcig goes from spot on to nasty very quickly. Again not a slight against them, just how it is.