I know a few folk already have them and Vapist put them up yesterday so a few more getting the Rose today, just a general talk sh@t impressions of the Ati, whats worked for you n what not. All my pics are just rushed phone jobbies with ney editing soz more play time that way. First off this is heavy and would hurt ALLOT if thrown at someone talking about Kayfun clones in this thred Only played for an hour or so but: Nice box Contents Stolen pic @Dino Partially broken down with the Rose World Cup Tool supplied to break down a little further: Tool goes into those slight indentations, and look its not a V2 its a V2.0b 1 not sure if its any form of revision or if that was just the crack for the V2 all along? Two ceramics supplied Wire and silica supplied nice touch from the only place to go and look finally found something I can put that 2.5mm more like 5mm cas its all voodoo wierd wool, would actually double over but with a coil doubled kna: Weapons of choice for first build, been meaning to try ribbon out: Probably not the wisest move doing first build with Ribbon due to ceramic but 2x does go through holes in the ceramic however I cut the tails way to short half whats in the pic so scrapped it after Being used to posts and screws etc building with ceramic in the base jamming away with the tails, and had forgot to loosen the grub screws egit, go forth and grab worlds largest alan key (supplied) Ended up this single for first vape, with way to long wick tails: Throat hit was intense too much for me tbh, still figuring that out as after going back in to trim the wick a little, and empty juice as chopped some wick by the chimmny into the tank, but neverless love the way you can get into the coils without an empty: This is where I am at with the Rose only a couple of hours. General very early observations: inital presentation is fantasic, its the little things like tubs for ceramics and orings, worlds largest alan key, multitool/leathal weapon made in England by three guys. Build quality is just 100% top draw 316ss chunky threads if you have a PAPs its that. Easier to build I think with the cup out long tails, get your tails through cup get them dead straight and snip em 3mm ish, line wick holes in cup with holes in base drop it in. I left too much wick tails initially so chimney cut them off need to cut them right next to there exit (cut wick will end up in your tank/juice) love the way you can take the tank off with juice in to either mess with the coil or wicks Bottom half of ati at 1ohm is getting quite hot but not an issue for me my paws on the mod not the Ati Flavour is very very stong look forward to trying different builds throat hit is intense a little too intense reading that varing the height of coils makes a massive difference the higher they are the bigger the throat hit need to play or if someone can advise? Vapour I want more was lacking in first build but believe thats my shoddy build/wick after the general scew around you do on your first one with a new toy. Air control just works spinning it the oposite direction to the thread so you dont loosen anything, now upto 2mm from 1.5 in V1. Juice control works but I need more time to figure it out fully On paps looks the fucking bollocks but with the spring i have in it will fire when put down not suprised really as its a light spring and ati is a heavy bugger, probably will try a stiffer spring but locking on the PAPs is half a turn. EDIT swapped PAPS switch for a heavier spring included with the PAP's can put it down no problem. TBC from me but @Dino and anyone else with one or wanting one etc. Sorry very rough and ready shite, but thats what the intention of this thread was talk shite about the Rose.