The MTL liquids thread, input please.

[eightbitraptor]

well, it should be .... clearly if it's thinner than manabush then it can't be 70% VG as VG is thick as fuck and I'm calling bullshit on those companies that are using a high VG ratio as a 'selling point' rather than as useful information for consumers. ... if it's made of AG which is typically 10% water I believe then it should say 60% VG 10% H2O 30% PG.

better still just put the real VG ratio so we do have an idea of the viscosity. ....... I don't know why this shit wasn't dealt with in the TPD.

I'm getting grumpy again.

Yeah to be clear. I should have said “stated vg ratio” in the above.

Still means the shake test could actually be useful tho.

 

[Simon G]

It’s 70vg but is literally the same if not thinner than Manabush 50/50.

Can you help us get to the bottom of this @ZT .... I know BUNKR is thick, really thick at 70% .... what's going on here? Are companies BSing about the VG ratio or does VG come in different qualities/thicknesses? Surely the testing would reveal the real amounts of VG and PG in a liquid or does the testing not test for amounts of each?

 

[ZT]

Can you help us get to the bottom of this @ZT .... I know BUNKR is thick, really thick at 70% .... what's going on here? Are companies BSing about the VG ratio or does VG come in different qualities/thicknesses? Surely the testing would reveal the real amounts of VG and PG in a liquid or does the testing not test for amounts of each?

I suspect there can be several reasons

Some VG based Nicbases also use water, not all flavours are mounted in PG (some have an alcohol like base - which is very thin).

Take Inawera grapefruit for instance .. thinner than water it seems when you splurge it all over the cleanroom top expecting it to be a PG like consistency

The real reality is there is no such thing as 70vg/30pg or 50vg/50pg

its generally 70vg or 50vg and the rest is made up of PG/Water,whatever else constitutes a flavour... and I suspect that can vary.

VG/PG is not as far as I am aware (i can ask my compliance company though) a thing that has to be declared - other than for a formula breakdown .. remember VG content is only important to us as vapers ... the powers that be just want a formula breakdown .. they couldn't give a toss what the VG/PG ratio is as long as the formula is noted.


I only really use one source of VG/PG .. though Ive used others in the past days .. they are all much of a muchness .. more variation can come in the nicbase (especially VG Nicbase .. which often has water - because VG being so thick is a hard medium to make sure the nicotine is distributed easily in)