I like to think it more of an evolutionBrilliant @MrTeaTime , you obviously went in the opposite direction of me, so what is your optimal set up. And are you a, oh wajamecallit, lung hit fan, is that the right term? There are so many definitions of vaping I'm inclined to get a dictionary together. And what was the thing about vaping that instinctively told you more watts less ohms? I just like hearing other people's take on this vape phenomenon