How to get that fizz in your blend

[Ninjaassasin1983]

I have the Swedish fish liquid but was not a fan of the flavour but could over power the flavours with some of your own :-) I like that idea @LilyRed, also I have been meaning to ask you about the concentrates you were giving away the other week... Are they any good and how much do you need to add for a good flavour

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they are good mate i won the strawberry and its like a mix between fresh strawberries and strawberry chewits and strawberry jam I used 15 percent and it was pretty strong i like strong flavours though and at 2quid for 30mls cant go wrong

 

[Chegs]

I have the Swedish fish liquid but was not a fan of the flavour but could over power the flavours with some of your own :-) I like that idea @LilyRed, also I have been meaning to ask you about the concentrates you were giving away the other week... Are they any good and how much do you need to add for a good flavour

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My review on the Peach PI flavouring wasn't to nice towards their flavour,I found the result tasted okay(not to my tastes as was a little muted and something near the furry skin type taste)but my biggest issue was the juice smelled really strongly of acetone once mixed.I left it to steep for a few days,hoping the smell might subside but even though it has been shaken daily,whizzed to a froth several times & it is now about 2 weeks(ish)since it was created,there is still a pervading odour of acetone from the bottle(though I can actually smell a faint peachy scent once the nostrils open back up after the acetone attack)As an extra ingredient for multi-flavour mixing,it would probably be okay,but as a lone flavour I won't be using it.It needs "something" with it,I just can't decide what that "something" should be,whether simply sweetening it,adding a "fizz" or a "creamy" type of extra would help it.

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

it would be awesome if somebody could crack this because I reckon a bit of sour and fizz would be great to make a tangfastics liquid

 

[Chegs]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ques-flavor-add-ons-em-vw-bw-mts-acv-ect.html

I got to page 25 before deciding that I'd learned as much as I was going to.

Saline solution 0.9% to reduce dryness of juices

Citric acid to get the fizz,also lemon juice(not oil)or Apple Cider Vinegar were mentioned

I didn't see many other "new" types of additive mentioned other than those that if spilled require either a house move or a specialist team to clean up.

 

[breakbystealth]

I have some sour so I will make some up and see how it goes. Also thanks for the responses guys.

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[LilyRed]

Chegs, I read that particular thread awhile back, must admit some of those sound a wee bit ... um ... well ...

The saline one in particular: using salt in cooking is one thing, but the salt/sodium chloride in the solution will simply crystallise when it hits the coil. Saline nebulisers and inhalers produce an aerosol to deliver the solution, not a vapour. Better to increase the VG, or use AG, or increase VG and add some distilled water to the mix.
Salt actually dehydrates rather than moisturises and is only used in nebulisers and so on as pure water would be unpleasant (rather uncomfortable!) to inhale on its own whereas saline is not.
AND FGS do not do a google for saline injection (google search did that automatically on my pc) aaaaaaaargh! I need the brain bleach, now.....

Yup, the specialist clean-up team to pick up the bits when your tank explodes

 

[Chegs]

I don't believe everything I read on t'internet.I was bored after quad coiling my W3 again this morning,so decided to try my hardest to break the secrets of mixing.No idea why I decided to read 25 pages though,because I fell asleep earlier & now I haven't the faintest idea who said what.Only thing I do know,Google doesn't help as much as it used to as it WILL find millions of results to specific search terms that are just the same on the 2nd/3rd/44th page as the first page.

Regarding saline solutions,if I eat food that has been cooked without salt it tastes bland(I do like chips with my salt though)if I heated up a solution with saline (pure salt) in it,the liquid will evaporate but the saline/salt just leaves a crystalline substance behind,which will leave coils coated in little crystals.As there are ferrous metals used to make Kanthal wire,they will rust which will flake off and be carried to the lungs in the vapour.I don't wish to have an "iron lung" on my insides as one of the benefits of stopping smoking is the ability to breath more easily.

I'm still trying to get my head around using citric acid to add "fizz" as surely making something sour doesn't confuse the taste buds into believing it's fizzy? Why not ask one of the juice vendors on POTV what to use? That can't be such a secret they'd have to kill us after revealing what to use.Has anyone bothered to read the POTV wiki entirely,that will have the information in and save my brain from trying to absorb any more internet myths.

 

[JammyB]

I had a look around a few months ago when I first tried LT ecigs cola fizz, from what I remember there was a combination of cinnamon, lemon, and menthol in small amounts to get a fizz but not enough to distort flavours.

 

[LilyRed]

I'm still trying to get my head around using citric acid to add "fizz" as surely making something sour doesn't confuse the taste buds into believing it's fizzy? Why not ask one of the juice vendors on POTV what to use? That can't be such a secret they'd have to kill us after revealing what to use.Has anyone bothered to read the POTV wiki entirely,that will have the information in and save my brain from trying to absorb any more internet myths.

That seems to be the idea, doesn't it although malic acid seems to be the more effective at producing sour flavours - The fizz from sherbet crystals, kali (sp?) in Scotland, sherbet fountains et al is the reaction between an alkali, usually sodium bicarbonate and an acid - malic acid, sodium citrate, citric acid when it gets wet - i.e. from the saliva in your mouth (a miniature version of the mentos + coca cola reaction). I do not want to vape sodium bicarb, it's not very good for you when inhaled, so I think it's possibly the 'sour' taste fooling the brain into thinking fizz... I have noticed a slight buzz on the tongue from one of the ginger flavours (FW I think?) when fresh, but this seems to disappear over time.

Another thing mentioned by the US forums is LorAnn Tart 'n' Sour; this costs about $2 in the bakery aisle at Walmarts over in the States .... or £4 ish over here from specialist baking shops (ripoff!) - not found it any cheaper so far, but again this is citric acid, malic acid, & sodium citrate, so it's no real difference from what we're using in the first place.

I did get some sour apple and some sour plum flavouring concentrate from Cupcake World in todays post (Vapemail! Yay! ) so I'll make them up for steeping next week when I get a chance and report back. Might be good for those of us oldies who remember the sour apple and soor ploom boiled sweets

breakbystealth I started to write up my taste tests on the PI flavours last night (at last!). Some are better than others, but so far on the 24hrs taste test I think I detect a more chemical note in them as stand-alone flavours than many of the more expensive ones; however they seem to mostly lose this in a mix of flavours and I think they will benefit from a longish - week plus - steep.

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

i couldnt try the cinnamon even the smallest hint would make me sick